jagossel wrote to All <=-
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So, I do follow some of the Twitter users for different Microsoft
products and serives: Visual Studio Code, .NET, and Channel 9.
Since .NET Core, ASP.NET Core, and Powershell Core is open source, they have been having a lot of tweets around running .NET Core and ASP.NET
Core apps on Linux.
That and the fact that the next relase of SQL Server is going to run on Linux, and the fact it is now possible have GNU/Linux utilities with Windows Subsystems for Linux on Windows 10, it seems to me that
Microsoft is making great strides to allow the possibility to mix and match platforms now.
How do you feel, as developers or those who are interested in being developers, about this movement toward mixed platforms? Do you think it
is a good thing, or a bad thing? Do you there there is a lot of
potential for Microsdt actually succeeding in allowing this mix and
match? Do you think developers and system anaylsts has been welcoming
of this change?
Thoughts?
-jag
Code it, script it, automate it!
I'm neutral. I will work the tools they give me. But, I really feel that Microsoft is making moves to exit the OS business and get to SaaS. It would not surprise.
Since .NET Core, ASP.NET Core, and Powershell Core is open source, they have been having a lot of tweets around running .NET Core and ASP.NET Core apps on Linux.
That and the fact that the next relase of SQL Server is going to run on Linux, and the fact it is now possible have GNU/Linux utilities with Windows Subsystems for Linux on Windows 10, it seems to me that Microsoft is making great strides to allow the possibility to mix and match platforms now.
How do you feel, as developers or those who are interested in being developers, about this movement toward mixed platforms? Do you think it is a good thing, or a bad thing? Do you there there is a lot of potential for Microsdt actually succeeding in allowing this mix and match? Do you think developers and system anaylsts has been welcoming of this change?
I heard about them wanting to leave operating system business and focus more in Azure. It makes sense in two aspects: (1) more and more businesses (seems to) are moving to using cloud services, and (2) hearing that Windows 10 will be the last major release and just continuing to improve on it.
There is a rumor going around that there could be a possibility that Windows could be open source, but I heard no official confirmation. It would seem to be the case when they made .NET Core, MSBuild, ASP.NET Core, and Powershell Core all open source. I guess there could be some truth to that, and one could say that Microsoft could open up Windows, but again, I saw nothing official about it.
I haven't heard about Windows possibly going open-source, but I've heard speculation that Microsoft might go to a subscription model for Windows. If that's the case, I imagine many (more) people would want to switch to another
platform. I would most likely want to use something else rather than pay a recurring fee to use my own computer. Windows is my main OS, but I've been liking Mint Linux these days..
I have heard the same subacription-based Windows rumor as well. I am OK with it as it implies renting a license for Windows and constantly getting the latest updates. If Microsoft does go down the route if doing a subscription, I will have to see how much they are going to charge. My
Nightfox wrote to jagossel <=-
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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: jagossel to Nightfox on Tue Feb 14 2017 09:36 am
I have heard the same subacription-based Windows rumor as well. I am OK with it as it implies renting a license for Windows and constantly getting the latest updates. If Microsoft does go down the route if doing a subscription, I will have to see how much they are going to charge. My
I just don't like the idea of paying a subscription to use an operating system. The OS is a key part of a computer, so an OS subscription would mean that if I miss a payment, then I can't use my computer at all.
After spending money to buy a computer, I'd still like to be able to at least use it for something.
Nightfox
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Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: jagossel to Nightfox on Tue Feb 14 2017 09:36 am
I have heard the same subacription-based Windows rumor as well. I am OK with it as it implies renting a license for Windows and constantly gett the latest updates. If Microsoft does go down the route if doing a subscription, I will have to see how much they are going to charge. My
I just don't like the idea of paying a subscription to use an operating syst The OS is a key part of a computer, so an OS subscription would mean that if miss a payment, then I can't use my computer at all. After spending money t buy a computer, I'd still like to be able to at least use it for something.
Nightfox
I am glad I have Linux to fall back on, Microsoft is getting way to greedy.
I still use windows 7 on my Desktop but run all my servers on Ubuntu Linux.
I am glad I have Linux to fall back on, Microsoft is getting way to greedy.
I still use windows 7 on my Desktop but run all my servers on Ubuntu Linux.
Yes, I'm glad I have a familiarity with Linux. If Microsoft starts charging a subscription fee for Windows, I think I'll end up switching to Linux.
Mint Linux is currently my favorite distro, but I also like OpenSUSE (also back when it was just SuSE).
i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.
i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.
Mro wrote to Nightfox <=-
windows is a more polished product and linux is not for everyone.
i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my
desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.
Denn Gray wrote to Mro <=-
I run most of my servers on Ubuntu 14.04, however I do run my Plex
home server on a windows thin client PC and I run my BBS on that same
PC. I prefer Linux for servers in most cases.
I have tried many Linux Distro's but have settled on Ubuntu due to its stability and support.
i'll just keep stealing it. i have several legit copies of windows but i prefer to steal it just because it's easier to install.
windows is a more polished product and linux is not for everyone.
i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.
i prefer to just use linux as a sever OS. the oses i use for my desktops are windows. linux is still a mess in some respects.
Windows has been doing online activation since XP though.. I'm not sure I'd want to risk it, particularly if I want to install Windows updates.
I use Debian or Raspian these days on machines acting as servers. Have heard a lot of good things about Ubuntu, but like the way Debian is managed for the most part. I also tend not to run X, so have a strong preference for command line or curses based tools.
they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually install updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want to install. i dont trust that shit.
Dumas Walker wrote to Vk3jed <=-
If you are not using X, then I don't think there is really much of a benefit of running ubuntu. I installed it on one machine for a while.
It was a more "bells-and-whistles," IMHO, for the X or desktop user.
Cli utilities may have been somewhat newer versions as, IIRC, they move stuff up to "stable" quicker.
I eventually replaced ubuntu with debian on the machine in question.
More stable.
Honestly, I have used linux as my primary desktop OS for about 17 years now. I used to keep a Windows 98SE machine up-to-date because I
sometimes needed it for things like Office or gaming. I currently have
an XP partition on my personal machine but I have probably not used it
in at least 3 years. I am pretty much able to do everything I want on
the debian boxes.
I could even move my DOS-based BBS, currently running under OS/2 for VMODEM, over to the debian box. I have tested it, am just too lazy to finish the job. :)
So, unless you have some proprietary software that only runs on
Windows, I am not real sure these days what it is that a linux desktop cannot do that Windows can.
So, unless you have some proprietary software that only runs on
Windows, I am not real sure these days what it is that a linux desktop
cannot do that Windows can.
I do have a bit of that, mostly in the "free as in beer" category.
they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually install updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want to install. i dont trust that shit.
You will find either one difficult to do in Windows 10. You cannot turn off updates, nor can you stop it from downloading automatically and installing. I have not checked yet on the other machine which runs the insider Edition, but the upcoming Creator edition is supposed to give you some control over that.
Nicholas Boel wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I do have a bit of that, mostly in the "free as in beer" category.
Since when is beer free? I wanna know where you hang out! :)
i only had windows 10 on a laptop that my girlfriend got from bestbuy and it took a dive after a few updates. i'm still running win7 enterprise. i dont feel i'm missing out.
Re: Mixed Microsoft/Linux Pla
By: Joe Delahaye to Mro on Sun Mar 19 2017 08:03 pm
lthey have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually instal
l.updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want to instal
offi dont trust that shit.
You will find either one difficult to do in Windows 10. You cannot turn
g.updates, nor can you stop it from downloading automatically and installin
n,I have not checked yet on the other machine which runs the insider Editio
rbut the upcoming Creator edition is supposed to give you some control ove
that.
i only had windows 10 on a laptop that my girlfriend got from bestbuy and it
took a dive after a few updates. i'm still running win7 enterprise. i dont feel i'm missing out.
they have always defeated it, since xp. also you can manually
install updates. i keep updates turned off and install what i want
to install. i dont trust that shit.
You will find either one difficult to do in Windows 10. You cannot
turn off updates, nor can you stop it from downloading automatically
and installing. I have not checked yet on the other machine which runs
the insider Edition, but the upcoming Creator edition is supposed to
give you some control over that.
i only had windows 10 on a laptop that my girlfriend got from bestbuy and it took a dive after a few updates. i'm still running win7 enterprise. i dont feel i'm missing out.
Did it come installed with 10, or was it updated? Some updates from 7 had some problems. You will be missing out in about 2 years I think, when it is no longer supported.
Did it come installed with 10, or was it updated? Some updates from 7
had some problems. You will be missing out in about 2 years I think,
when it is no longer supported.
it was an update from windows 8 i believe. the daughter who i call the destroyer of all electronics dropped a ton of water on the keyboard and brought it to me asking if i could fix it.
she was using the couch as a desk and then put her waterbottle on the cushion and ofcourse it dumped on the laptop.
she went through 5 iphones too.
For me. Linux is way better. Fedora all the way.
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