• H.265 video

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ALL on Saturday, June 12, 2021 11:10:00
    I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264 setting, my laptop seems to have no issues playing the videos back. With
    the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some searching. I do appear to have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to get the video to playback correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265 video
    on a linux machine?

    Thanks!


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, June 12, 2021 21:06:24
    Re: H.265 video
    By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Sat Jun 12 2021 11:10 am

    I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264 setting, my laptop seems to have no issues playing the videos back. With the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some searching. I do appear to have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to get the video to playback correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265 video on a linux machine?

    Thanks!

    you are missing the specs of the machine and specs of the video you are trying to play
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Sunday, June 13, 2021 07:56:19
    Re: H.265 video
    By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Sat Jun 12 2021 11:10 am

    I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264 setting, my laptop se
    to have no issues playing the videos back. With
    the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some searching. I do appear
    have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to
    get the video to playback correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265
    video
    on a linux machine?

    Thanks!


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    Which program are you using to reproduce the video?

    With Mplayer I have found that it uses a single CPU core by default, and you have to enable
    multithreading for it at runtime if you want to play heavy videos, for example.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sunday, June 13, 2021 09:29:00
    I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264 setting, my laptop seems to have no issues playing the videos back. With the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some searching. I do appear to have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also
    need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to get the video to playback correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265 video on a linux machine?

    Thanks!

    you are missing the specs of the machine and specs of the video you are trying
    o play

    The video was shot at 1080p 90FPS. The machine is running the latest
    version of debian and has a multi-core intel processor (although I cannot remember which one).


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sunday, June 13, 2021 18:56:00
    Re: H.265 video
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Jun 13 2021 09:29 am

    The video was shot at 1080p 90FPS. The machine is running the latest version of debian and has a multi-core intel processor (although I cannot remember which one).


    try vlc and see how it goes. it should be able to run it fine.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Sunday, June 13, 2021 16:29:30
    Re: H.265 video
    By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Sat Jun 12 2021 11:10 am

    I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264 setting, my laptop se
    to have no issues playing the videos back. With
    the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some searching. I do appear
    have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to
    get the video to playback correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265
    video
    on a linux machine?

    Which program are you using to reproduce the video?

    With Mplayer I have found that it uses a single CPU core by default, and you have to enable
    multithreading for it at runtime if you want to play heavy videos, for example.


    I have tried both vlc and mpv. That is an interesting point you bring up. The machine is running an i3-4000M with a 2.90x4 CPU, but I don't know that it is attempting to use them all or not. I know there are some programs where you can specify the number of cores to use on the command line but based on the help output vlc does not appear to have an option to force it to use N cores.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sunday, June 13, 2021 23:55:46
    Re: Re: H.265 video
    By: Dumas Walker to Arelor on Sun Jun 13 2021 04:29 pm

    Which program are you using to reproduce the video?

    With Mplayer I have found that it uses a single CPU core by default, and you have to enable
    multithreading for it at runtime if you want to play heavy videos, for example.


    I have tried both vlc and mpv. That is an interesting point you bring up. The machine is running an i3-4000M with a 2.90x4 CPU, but I don't know that it is attempting to use them all or not. I know there are some programs where you can specify the number of cores to use on the command line but based on the help output vlc does not appear to have an option to force it to use N cores.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, June 14, 2021 16:49:00
    you shouldnt have issues with that computer. you must have some hardware issue

    Or I am missing something that allows me to play H.265/HVEC video. It
    could even be the camera. The H.264 video it produces, using the same
    settings otherwise, looks just fine.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, June 15, 2021 03:04:35
    Re: Re: H.265 video
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Jun 14 2021 04:49 pm

    you shouldnt have issues with that computer. you must have some hardware issue

    Or I am missing something that allows me to play H.265/HVEC video. It
    could even be the camera. The H.264 video it produces, using the same settings otherwise, looks just fine.


    well didnt you try downloading a h265 video and playing it to see?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:05:00
    you shouldnt have issues with that computer. you must have some hardware issue

    Or I am missing something that allows me to play H.265/HVEC video. It could even be the camera. The H.264 video it produces, using the same settings otherwise, looks just fine.


    well didnt you try downloading a h265 video and playing it to see?

    I am not certain where I would find one. All of the HD video on YT that I download appears not to be H265.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, June 16, 2021 17:15:56
    Re: Re: H.265 video
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Jun 16 2021 10:05 am

    you shouldnt have issues with that computer. you must have some hardware issue

    Or I am missing something that allows me to play H.265/HVEC video. It could even be the camera. The H.264 video it produces, using the same settings otherwise, looks just fine.


    well didnt you try downloading a h265 video and playing it to see?

    I am not certain where I would find one. All of the HD video on YT that I download appears not to be H265.


    you dont steal movies and tv?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, June 17, 2021 15:40:00
    I am not certain where I would find one. All of the HD video on YT that I download appears not to be H265.


    you dont steal movies and tv?

    No I don't have the time (lately!) to watch the ones I have waiting on the
    DVR!


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  • From Ksource@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Friday, June 18, 2021 02:57:52
    Re: H.265 video
    By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Sat Jun 12 2021 11:10 am

    I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With the 264 setting, my laptop seems to have no issues playing the videos back. With the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running debian and did some searching. I do appear to have the libraries installed for 265. Do I also need to install the 'dev' libraries/packages to get the video to playback correctly? Are there any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265 video on a linux machine?

    A lot of GPUs have built-in h264 hardware acceleration. I don't know the state of
    hardware h264 acceleration, but it's probably much more spotty, particularly if it's
    an older laptop. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that your machine just doesn't have any
    hardware acceleration for h265

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Sunday, June 27, 2021 15:43:58
    On 6/13/2021 1:29 PM, Dumas Walker wrote:

    I have tried both vlc and mpv. That is an interesting point you
    bring up. The machine is running an i3-4000M with a 2.90x4 CPU,
    but I don't know that it is attempting to use them all or not. I
    know there are some programs where you can specify the number of
    cores to use on the command line but based on the help output vlc
    does not appear to have an option to force it to use N cores.

    The i3-4000M is a Haswell architecture, the iGPU doesn't support
    QuickSync decoding for h.265 in that generation, so it's doing CPU
    decoding, which your system *should* be able to handle, but it's pretty
    high overhead, which would account for stuttering, and will vary based
    on memory and hdd performance as well.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Ksource on Sunday, June 27, 2021 15:49:05
    On 6/18/2021 12:57 AM, Ksource wrote:
    I have a camera that takes H.264 and H.265 compressed video. With
    the 264 setting, my laptop seems to have no issues playing the videos
    back. With the 265 setting, the video is choppy. I am running
    debian and did some searching. I do appear to have the libraries
    installed for 265. Do I also need to install the 'dev'
    libraries/packages to get the video to playback correctly? Are there
    any tips/tricks you all have re: playing H.265 video on a linux
    machine?

    A lot of GPUs have built-in h264 hardware acceleration. I don't know
    the state of hardware h264 acceleration, but it's probably much more
    spotty, particularly if it's an older laptop. I'd bet dollars to
    doughnuts that your machine just doesn't have any hardware
    acceleration for h265

    From other messages (i3-4000M) QuickSync does have h.264, but not h.265 hardware support, so you are correct in your assertion... I did take the
    time to check.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Sunday, June 27, 2021 21:39:44
    Re: Re: H.265 video
    By: Tracker1 to Ksource on Sun Jun 27 2021 03:49 pm

    From other messages (i3-4000M) QuickSync does have h.264, but not h.265 hardware support, so you are correct in your assertion... I did take the time to check.


    that's sad because i have android tv's that can play h265
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Monday, June 28, 2021 19:37:00
    I have tried both vlc and mpv. That is an interesting point you
    bring up. The machine is running an i3-4000M with a 2.90x4 CPU,
    but I don't know that it is attempting to use them all or not. I
    know there are some programs where you can specify the number of
    cores to use on the command line but based on the help output vlc
    does not appear to have an option to force it to use N cores.

    The i3-4000M is a Haswell architecture, the iGPU doesn't support
    QuickSync decoding for h.265 in that generation, so it's doing CPU
    decoding, which your system *should* be able to handle, but it's pretty
    high overhead, which would account for stuttering, and will vary based
    on memory and hdd performance as well.

    Thanks!

    To everyone who responded -- thanks to you all. It *appears* that the
    issue may not be the hardware I am playing back on, but the power source I
    was using while recording. I still need to retest 90fps but, at 60fps off
    the battery pack, I recorded video that played back without issue.

    The video I took that had difficulty was taken when the camera was plugged
    into my car's power vs. the battery. I did not take that into
    consideration.

    I am testing 90fps from battery source right now so we will see what
    happens. :)

    on edit - nope that wasn't it after all. Apparently 60fps good, 90fps bad!


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