Hello

I'm kind of a little bit excited about the MQTT support in synchronet 3.20.

When I was working on Magicka, I added MQTT support to the BBS and wrote a QT application to monitor the nodes on my desktop (another computer from the bbs).

I was thinking about making a similar program for synchronet, but am wondering if anyone else is working on this sort of thing, or if something similar already exists?

I know the MQTT stuff in synchronet is a lot more detailed than what I did in magicka, but to start with I was thinking of just having a list of nodes with the status in them, and going from there.

Andrew

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Re: MQTT
By: apam to All on Tue Apr 09 2024 09:15 pm

Hello

I'm kind of a little bit excited about the MQTT support in synchronet 3.20.

I am too! Glad to hear some others appreciate the potential. :-)

When I was working on Magicka, I added MQTT support to the BBS and wrote a QT application to monitor the nodes on my desktop (another computer from the bbs).

I was thinking about making a similar program for synchronet, but am wondering if anyone else is working on this sort of thing, or if something similar already exists?

Ree wrote up a web-based sysop "control panel" that uses MQTT: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/tree/master/webv4/components/webmonitor

I tried setting up up but didn't have much success, so I'm not sure how far along it is. But I seem to recall at least one other sysop successfully using it.

I know the MQTT stuff in synchronet is a lot more detailed than what I did in magicka, but to start with I was thinking of just having a list of nodes with the status in them, and going from there.

Yeah, that'd be cool.

I was thinking QT myself for a future cross-platform replacement for the Synchronet control panel (sbbsctrl) for Windows. But when attempting (in QT) to recreate the same 4-main panel docksite interface we have to today in sbbsctrl, I wasn't successful. I do plan to take another stab at that in the future. Also considering using wxWidgets.
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Re: MQTT
By: Digital Man to apam on Tue Apr 09 2024 11:03 am

Synchronet control panel (sbbsctrl) for Windows. But when attempting (in QT) to recreate the same 4-main panel docksite interface we have to today in sbbsctrl, I wasn't successful. I do plan to take another stab at that in the future. Also considering using wxWidgets.

I've used wxWidgets in the past (it has been a while). I've heard a lot of people say they like Qt though (although I haven't used Qt myself). I thought wxWidgets was pretty good. I had used CodeBlocks at one point to help put together a UI, but that was around 2004-2005, and there may be better tools these days.

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On 09 Apr 2024, Digital Man said the following...

at that in the future. Also considering using wxWidgets.

worth knowing wxWidgets doesn't come with Slackware (obv popular with bbs users) and the slackbuild takes FOREVER to compile on an older machine..

even for my 5700x:

./wxWidgets.SlackBuild 446.85s user 36.76s system 99% cpu 8:05.17 total

though i didn't add something like -j10 to makeflags or anything..

filezilla uses it and on my old i7 3520 laptop i used to start the upgrade and watch a tv show while i waited :)

future wiki page could point here:

http://slackware.uk/people/alien/slackbuilds/wxGTK3/

for a prebuilt package tho.

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HelloI'm kind of a little bit excited about the MQTT support in
synchronet 3.20.When I was working on Magicka, I added MQTT support to
the BBS and wrote a QT application to monitor the nodes on my desktop (another computer from the bbs).I was thinking about making a similar program for synchronet, but am wondering if anyone else is working on
this sort of thing, or if something similar already exists?I know the
MQTT stuff in synchronet is a lot more detailed than what I did in magicka, but to start with I was thinking of just having a list of nodes with the status in them, and going from there.Andrew

Interesting - I've been playing with Mosquitto broker and MQTT this past week. (esp8266 remote control project) It works really nicely and is reliable... so you're using it to notify you or update some page for what nodes are active???

Just wondering what uses MQTT on a BBS might be.



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Re: Re: MQTT
By: paulie420 to apam on Tue Apr 09 2024 06:42 pm

week. (esp8266 remote control project) It works really nicely and is reliable... so you're using it to notify you or update some page for what nodes are active???

Sort of, I'm using it to show me what nodes are active in a gui application, but you could easily do it on a web page too. (Essentially what the gui application that comes with does, except this one doesn't have to run on the same machine)

Just wondering what uses MQTT on a BBS might be.

Well you could get an arduino and hook up an lcd and have a little monitor or something :)

Synchronet doesn't just publish messages though it recevives them too, so you can potentially remote control your SBBS via MQTT messages.

There is a web page with all the features so far..

http://wiki.synchro.net/ref:mqtt

You can even nodespy with it.. it's really cool.

Andrew

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Re: MQTT
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Apr 09 2024 11:35 am

I've used wxWidgets in the past (it has been a while). I've heard a lot of people say they like Qt though (although I haven't used Qt myself). I thought wxWidgets was pretty good. I had used CodeBlocks at one point to help put together a UI, but that was around 2004-2005, and there may be better tools these days.

When I used wxWidgets, I didn't realize there was any gui builder lol.

I really like QT, qtcreator (their IDE) is really nice. QT has everything you might need (even an Mqtt module)

The only thing with QT is that the license is GPL3 unless you buy a license - and I believe buying a license is very expensive. I think WxWidgets is LGPL. Still, it doesn't matter too much if you're working on OpenSource stuff anyway.

Andrew

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Re: MQTT
By: Digital Man to apam on Tue Apr 09 2024 11:03 am

I was thinking QT myself for a future cross-platform replacement for the Synchronet control panel (sbbsctrl) for Windows. But when attempting (in QT) to recreate the same 4-main panel docksite interface we have to today in sbbsctrl, I wasn't successful. I do plan to take another stab at that in the future. Also considering using wxWidgets.

I like QT, althought the UI building is probably my least favourite part. I'm not too familiar with the sbbsctrl program (I've seen it a couple of times but don't really remember it) but it might be you have to make a widget if none of the ones that come with do it right.

WxWidgets is also good. I used it for a gopher client I wrote back a while ago, I wasn't aware there was a GUI builder, but apparently there is.

WxWidgets might be a little easer with license requirements, as with qt only the currently supported releases are available as opensource, KDE kept a fork of qt5 to apply patches as they only just have upgraded to qt6, but that doesn't help much on windows. Though I imagine a synchronet control panel would be much easier to keep up with QT, than an entire desktop environment :P

Andrew

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El 9/4/24 a las 08:15, apam escribi¢:

Hello

I'm kind of a little bit excited about the MQTT support in synchronet 3.20.

When I was working on Magicka, I added MQTT support to the BBS and wrote a QT application to monitor the nodes on my desktop (another computer from the bbs).

I was thinking about making a similar program for synchronet, but am wondering if anyone else is working on this sort of thing, or if something similar already exists?

I know the MQTT stuff in synchronet is a lot more detailed than what I did in magicka, but to start with I was thinking of just having a list of nodes with the status in them, and going from there.

Andrew

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I like QT, but I think I prefer it to be a web app, because it can be
hosted directly on the sbbs webserver and the build and deploy is simpler.
The panel that they started to make with mqtt, although it is not yet
fully functional, seems like a good idea to me. Maybe you should choose
a good framework to make it easy to put together the screen dashboards.
But I agree that MQTT in sbbs (or Magicka) is a very good idea
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Sort of, I'm using it to show me what nodes are active in a gui application, but you could easily do it on a web page too. (Essentially what the gui application that comes with does, except this one doesn't have to run on the same machine)

Right - cause I use Home Assistant and could prolly easily import Sync data. Very cool; synchronet is always developed wonderfully and is prolly the most feature-packed BBS software available.

I personally like the 'feel' of Telegard/Renegade/Mystic boards - but with enough work, Sync can literally DO THAT.

Thx for the response.

Synchronet doesn't just publish messages though it recevives them too,
so you can potentially remote control your SBBS via MQTT messages.

You can even nodespy with it.. it's really cool.

Nodespy even? I gotta go read how that one works... I found the gitlab, too;

http://wiki.synchro.net/ref:mqtt

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Has anyone thought about adding some kind of MQTT support to Synchronet? Maybe echicken? :)

My thinking was for interfacing with meshtastic, so maybe just email or interbbs messaging. Regular messages might often be too big. I suppose email would be, too, with quoting and such.

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Re: MQTT
By: phigan to All on Sat Mar 08 2025 11:52 pm

Has anyone thought about adding some kind of MQTT support to Synchronet? Maybe echicken? :)

MQTT supported was one of the big features added in v3.20 in January of this year.
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:52:22 -0700
"phigan" (VERT/TACOPRON) <VERT/TACOPRON!phigan@endofthelinebbs.com>
wrote:

Has anyone thought about adding some kind of MQTT support to
Synchronet? Maybe echicken? :)

My thinking was for interfacing with meshtastic, so maybe just email
or interbbs messaging. Regular messages might often be too big. I
suppose email would be, too, with quoting and such.

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Digital Man wrote to phigan <=-

Has anyone thought about adding some kind of MQTT support to Synchronet? Maybe echicken? :)

MQTT supported was one of the big features added in v3.20 in January of this year.

Or, last year, even? ;-)



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Has anyone thought about adding some kind of MQTT support to Synchronet? Maybe echicken? :)

My thinking was for interfacing with meshtastic, so maybe just email or interbbs messaging. Regular messages might often be too big. I suppose email would be, too, with quoting and such.

While I have no idea about Sync, or its development, I would also support this... I'm a Meshtastic user, and I use MQTT for other smart home projects - LOL, imagine a BBS where a light flashes when a user wants to chat. :P I'm all for new technologies in this community - but many disagree.



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MQTT supported was one of the big features added in v3.20 in January of this year.

Holy heck. I guess I do remember reading that in the changelogs - that is so cool, DM... I really wish I would have stuck with Sync and just customized it so much that it looked like my own.

After learning more about Sync, I realize that even the [small] things I didn't like were likely able to customize out. [Simply like the 'this is a Synchronet BBS' login stuff...]

Thank you for continuing to develop the most advanced BBS software there ever was.



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On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 13:01:00 +0000
"paulie420" (VERT/BEERS20) <VERT/BEERS20!paulie420@endofthelinebbs.com>
wrote:

MQTT supported was one of the big features added in v3.20 in
January of this year.

Holy heck. I guess I do remember reading that in the changelogs -
that is so cool, DM... I really wish I would have stuck with Sync and
just customized it so much that it looked like my own.

After learning more about Sync, I realize that even the [small]
things I didn't like were likely able to customize out. [Simply like
the 'this is a Synchronet BBS' login stuff...]

Thank you for continuing to develop the most advanced BBS software
there ever was.

This is my node-red control panel for synchronet using mqtt.

https://postimg.cc/yJ3JsN2r

I use text to speech to announce when a new user account is created,
but not between 11pm and 7am.
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Re: Re: MQTT
By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Sun Mar 09 2025 08:40 am

Digital Man wrote to phigan <=-

Has anyone thought about adding some kind of MQTT support to Synchronet? Maybe echicken? :)

MQTT supported was one of the big features added in v3.20 in January of this year.

Or, last year, even? ;-)

The first official release with MQTT support was this year. The previous release (v3.19) did not support MQTT.
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Re: MQTT
By: Digital Man to phigan on Sun Mar 09 2025 03:05 am

MQTT supported was one of the big features added in v3.20 in January of this year.

I'm behind as usual! Thanks for pointing this out.

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Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-

Digital Man wrote to phigan <=-

Has anyone thought about adding some kind of MQTT support to Synchronet? Maybe echicken? :)

MQTT supported was one of the big features added in v3.20 in January of this year.

Or, last year, even? ;-)

The first official release with MQTT support was this year. The
previous release (v3.19) did not support MQTT.

Ahhh, yes, the official release thing. Many of us on the Linux dev
update train have seen it for a bit longer... ;-) Thanks for
clarifying.




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El 9/3/25 a las 19:18, nelgin (VERT/EOTLBBS) escribi¢:

On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 13:01:00 +0000
"paulie420" (VERT/BEERS20) <VERT/BEERS20!paulie420@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

DM> MQTT supported was one of the big features added in v3.20 in
DM> January of this year.

Holy heck. I guess I do remember reading that in the changelogs -
that is so cool, DM... I really wish I would have stuck with Sync and
just customized it so much that it looked like my own.

After learning more about Sync, I realize that even the [small]
things I didn't like were likely able to customize out. [Simply like
the 'this is a Synchronet BBS' login stuff...]

Thank you for continuing to develop the most advanced BBS software
there ever was.

This is my node-red control panel for synchronet using mqtt.

https://postimg.cc/yJ3JsN2r

I use text to speech to announce when a new user account is created,
but not between 11pm and 7am.

very nice!

I will work on grafana dashboard to play with mqtt

Saludos!
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