• Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi

    From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Gamgee on Monday, November 03, 2025 01:15:00
    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Gamgee to Mindsurfer on Sun Nov 02 2025 16:06:36

    Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?

    I have always preferred 'Pan'.

    looks really decent. But in the short time i have tested Pan, i could not make it show the actual message but the headers only.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Mindsurfer on Sunday, November 02, 2025 19:43:43
    Mindsurfer wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Gamgee to Mindsurfer on Sun Nov 02 2025 16:06:36

    Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?

    I have always preferred 'Pan'.

    looks really decent. But in the short time i have tested Pan, i could
    not make it show the actual message but the headers only.

    Well, have you tried looking at the "View" section in the top toolbar?

    I mean....



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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Gamgee on Monday, November 03, 2025 17:33:00
    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Gamgee to Mindsurfer on Sun Nov 02 2025 19:43:43

    Any other Newsgroup Reader out there beside Thunderbird?

    I have always preferred 'Pan'.

    looks really decent. But in the short time i have tested Pan, i could not
    make it show the actual message but the headers only.

    Well, have you tried looking at the "View" section in the top toolbar?
    I mean....

    I have installed Pan once again to check if i missed a setting and what can i say. It does show the body now. No idea what was wrong before or if it takes some time to load the body for each message after the headers. i don't know.

    Mindsurfer

    PS: is there a way to make Newsreaders (Pan) show color Ansi?

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Accession on Monday, November 03, 2025 17:42:00
    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbird
    By: Accession to Stephan Gebbers on Sun Nov 02 2025 20:25:17

    i made some funky test posts using Thunderbird and Pan on FSXNet.
    Here's a post using slrn, which shells out to nano when I post or reply.
    The "From" field includes an email in one post and the "To" field contains
    the "newsgroup area tag" etc. It is Usenet that has to fit into FTNs.

    Ok, thats interesting. i might send out some more tests and watch how the actual message looks outside the Newsreader, in the BBS.

    I'm not sure why Thunderbird put the newsgroup area tag in the "To" field, but that can probably be changed in your Thunderbird settings. Out of both posts that came through, neither of them show your email in the "From" field, so either Synchronet or clrghaus probably removed that for you.

    One of the main things that bothers me about NNTP is by default all of your posts will be "To: All" unless you are able to force the "x-comment-to" field, which is doable in slrn as you can see this message is to you. It's also doable with Thunderbird with some messing with the config, but it's ugly.

    I accidently messed up an smtp server setting in Thunderbird while testing around with the newsgroups yesterday. Took me a while to add that SMTP again and to find out that i have an application password for that Email provider different from the providers website login =) LOL

    still thinking about if i want to test slrn. Not sure if i want another TUI interface for reading/posting messages.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to All on Monday, November 03, 2025 22:19:00
    On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 23:03:46 -0600, "MRO" (VERT/BBSESINF) wrote:

    i made some funky test posts using Thunderbird and Pan on FSXNet. The "From" field includes an email in one post

    your from field contains an entire email?

    sending this from Pan Newsreader as a test.

    Mindsurfer
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Mindsurfer on Monday, November 03, 2025 16:56:20
    Hey Mindsurfer!

    On Mon, 03 Nov 2025 17:33:00 +0000, you wrote:

    PS: is there a way to make Newsreaders (Pan) show color Ansi?

    Short answer, no.

    Non-colored ansi (ascii) can be viewed in any newsreader that supports the CP437 charset. I'm not sure about Pan, but Claws Mail does, and Thunderbird does not. However, as soon as color is added, no newsreader that I've tried knows what an ANSI is. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Mindsurfer on Monday, November 03, 2025 17:03:28
    Hey Mindsurfer!

    On Mon, 03 Nov 2025 17:42:00 +0000, you wrote:

    Ok, thats interesting. i might send out some more tests and watch how
    the actual message looks outside the Newsreader, in the BBS.

    Sure, that's a good way of testing.

    I accidently messed up an smtp server setting in Thunderbird while
    testing around with the newsgroups yesterday. Took me a while to add
    that SMTP again and to find out that i have an application password for
    that Email provider different from the providers website login =) LOL

    Whoops!

    still thinking about if i want to test slrn. Not sure if i want another
    TUI interface for reading/posting messages.

    What TUI interfaces do you already have?

    Here is some screenshots of how it could look. Obviously, you can make it look however you want:

    https://www.slrn.org/screenshots.html https://screenshots.debian.net/package/slrn

    If you do decide to try it, get it from here and compile it yourself:

    https://github.com/jedsoft/slrn

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Mindsurfer on Monday, November 03, 2025 17:27:28
    Hey Mindsurfer!

    On Mon, 03 Nov 2025 22:19:00 +0000, you wrote:

    On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 23:03:46 -0600, "MRO" (VERT/BBSESINF) wrote:

    i made some funky test posts using Thunderbird and Pan on FSXNet.
    The "From" field includes an email in one post

    your from field contains an entire email?

    sending this from Pan Newsreader as a test.

    Mindsurfer
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    Looked good from this angle. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Mindsurfer on Monday, November 03, 2025 20:49:52
    Mindsurfer wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I have always preferred 'Pan'.

    looks really decent. But in the short time i have tested Pan, i could not
    make it show the actual message but the headers only.

    Well, have you tried looking at the "View" section in the top toolbar?
    I mean....

    I have installed Pan once again to check if i missed a setting and what can i say. It does show the body now. No idea what was wrong before or
    if it takes some time to load the body for each message after the
    headers. i don't know.

    Okay.

    PS: is there a way to make Newsreaders (Pan) show color Ansi?

    I don't think so, and I hope not. It's a news (text) reader.




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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Accession on Tuesday, November 04, 2025 11:40:00
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Accession to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 03 2025 16:56:20

    PS: is there a way to make Newsreaders (Pan) show color Ansi?

    Short answer, no.

    Non-colored ansi (ascii) can be viewed in any newsreader that supports the CP437 charset. I'm not sure about Pan, but Claws Mail does, and Thunderbird does not. However, as soon as color is added, no newsreader that I've tried knows what an ANSI is. ;)

    ignore my repeated ansi question in my other message ;)
    yeah, i thought that could be problematic. You can't have it all. =)
    Pan is configurable in regards to the fonts. monochrome cp437 chars should work there if you load the right font/ global codepage.

    Mindsurfer

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  • From Mindsurfer@VERT/FUNTOPIA to Accession on Tuesday, November 04, 2025 12:02:00
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Accession to Mindsurfer on Mon Nov 03 2025 17:03:28

    still thinking about if i want to test slrn. Not sure if i want another TUI
    interface for reading/posting messages.

    What TUI interfaces do you already have?

    well, sitting in my BBS reading/writing messages, or connecting to the LXC where the BBS resides via ssh terminal and doing stuff in the terminal or using midnight commander to move files around.
    i just thought it could be nice to zoom out a bit of the 80x25 matrix every now and then and have a different interface for reading/writing messages =)
    But it seems it is still the easiest and most convenient to just stay connected to you bbs the whole day and open the messages view when you feel like it ;)

    Mindsurfer

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