Re: Re: 3d printing
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Vk3jed on Sun Sep 22 2019 06:57 am

The Denon "Digital Audio Interconnect" cable (3 foot cat6 cable) on
Amazon for $499 got reviewers to pile onto it - it's an entertaining
read if you can find it.

Recently I was at a store and saw a cat5 ethernet cable in a package that said "streaming internet cable".

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Re: Re: 3d printing
By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Mon Sep 23 2019 11:12 am

On 09-22-19 16:06, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

The company making the claims would support their quality claims by showing loads of graphs depicting frequency reponse and attenutation, however Randi said that was immaterial since he wanted a human "expert"to tell them apart in a blind test, not an oscilloscope. They

Well, the product is marketed for use by humans, so actual double blind listening tests makes the most sense.

may have been better in the ways of materials and manufacturing, however the doubt was if their $500 cable was more noticeable than a $25 cable. The audio guy I worked with said price was no concern, since a guy spending $10k on a set of speakers isn't going to bother with nickle and diming over the price of a cable.

Yes, I reckon they would easily sell them. Me? I have too much Scots in my ancestry. I'm prepared to spend money for quality, but I'd still pay $50-$1 for decent electrical cable (copper is still somewhat expensive) than wastin $500 on something of dubious benefit.

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You pay extra for the fancy braided cable sheathing and direction arrows embossed in the connectors.

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Re: Re: 3d printing
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 23 2019 10:09 am

Re: Re: 3d printing
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Vk3jed on Sun Sep 22 2019 06:57 am

The Denon "Digital Audio Interconnect" cable (3 foot cat6 cable) on Amazon for $499 got reviewers to pile onto it - it's an entertaining read if you can find it.

Recently I was at a store and saw a cat5 ethernet cable in a package that sa

Nightfox

Makes sense. Not the most technical term, but close enough for a
non-technical consumer.

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On 09-23-19 14:32, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

You pay extra for the fancy braided cable sheathing and direction
arrows embossed in the connectors.

Not the sort of thing I'd pay extra for. ;)


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Re: Re: 3d printing
By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Tue Sep 24 2019 09:49 pm

On 09-23-19 14:32, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

You pay extra for the fancy braided cable sheathing and direction arrows embossed in the connectors.

Not the sort of thing I'd pay extra for. ;)

... I don't do drugs. I get the same effect just standing up fast.

Not my cup of tea either, but some dig all the extra bells and whistles

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Re: Re: 3d printing
By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Fri Sep 20 2019 03:52 pm

One thing I think is funny is that some music (I thought most music these da
was recorded digitally, but I've seen FLACs going around that were recorded at the quality has more to do with the electronics of the player than the st

I would agree with you on that.
That is funny.


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On 09-24-19 11:59, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Not my cup of tea either, but some dig all the extra bells and whistles

I'd rather pay for the stuff that does the actual work, and spend simply enough on cable able to offer a low enough impedance for best results.


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Re: Re: 3d printing
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 23 2019 10:09 am

Recently I was at a store and saw a cat5 ethernet cable in a package that said "streaming internet cable".

Nightfox

It's sad, a whole new generation of lemmings are being raised with a level of abstraction that insulates them from what/how things communicate in the digital world. My daughter doesn't understand how some apps on her phone(if not all) could use data. She doesn't understand IP address and why they're needed.
It's like we're evolving into the people in the movie, "Wall-E". All they know is that layer of abstraction and no comprehension of what lies below it. Just sad.

James

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Re: Re: 3d printing
By: Jamestyree to Nightfox on Wed Sep 25 2019 05:25 pm

Re: Re: 3d printing
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 23 2019 10:09 am

Recently I was at a store and saw a cat5 ethernet cable in a package that said "streaming internet cable".

Nightfox

It's sad, a whole new generation of lemmings are being raised with a level o abstraction that insulates them from what/how things communicate in the digi world. My daughter doesn't understand how some apps on her phone(if not all could use data. She doesn't understand IP address and why they're needed. It's like we're evolving into the people in the movie, "Wall-E". All they k is that layer of abstraction and no comprehension of what lies below it. Ju sad.

James

lol. 35 years ago I wrote a report in school on how computers will become as common an appliance as a TV or telephone, and even more when every gets access
to a high speed data line. Teacher gave me B because I had a good imagination, but otherwise said the idea was ridiculous. Who would want to carry around a computer, let alone have more than one? No one would want one in their living room. I ran into him a couple of years ago, and all he had
to say was, "yep. You were right."

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Re: Re: 3d printing
By: Moondog to Jamestyree on Wed Sep 25 2019 08:36 pm

It's sad, a whole new generation of lemmings are being raised with a leve abstraction that insulates them from what/how things communicate in the d world. My daughter doesn't understand how some apps on her phone(if not could use data. She doesn't understand IP address and why they're needed It's like we're evolving into the people in the movie, "Wall-E". All the is that layer of abstraction and no comprehension of what lies below it. sad.

James

lol. 35 years ago I wrote a report in school on how computers will become a common an appliance as a TV or telephone, and even more when every gets acce
to a high speed data line. Teacher gave me B because I had a good imagination, but otherwise said the idea was ridiculous. Who would want to carry around a computer, let alone have more than one? No one would want on in their living room. I ran into him a couple of years ago, and all he had to say was, "yep. You were right."

This reminds me of my youth... I tried to explain to my parents and uncles in 1982/1983 what a bbs was. How computers could connect and interact over the phone. What email was.

My uncle, who is now a retired CPA and who was then a realtor sat in front of my TI and said "Tell it calculate a load amortization table" and I had to explain you can't just ask it to do things.

He pulled out his calculater and showed me the formula.
I wrote a program in basic in about 5 minutes and ran it.
Same performance as calculater.

"So why would i want a computer that big when I can carry a calculator".

"because, at the office, the 15 agents can all have a terminal and run programs and never carry a calculator. They can also send emails to/from other agents all over the state without making phone calls". <--- I found out later that was the "MLS" system was already in place... and that most real estate offices had an official MLS modem/printer that would print everything out. No screen.

I watched how they connected it, and figured out you could dial it with a computer and a terminal program as long as you knew your office's id/pwd.

Suddenly, the broker and agents were "working from home"...

today, these same people act like they are hip to the technology and of course all have smartphones and facebook accounts.

they also still have fax machines. can't let go can they.

I'm rambling.

So many of us as mere children were imagining a future for computers where daily tasks were being not replaced, but augmented and made easier.

Today's kids are crying about global warming and the fact that Forever 21 is going out of business because Trump is evil.


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Re: Re: 3d printing
By: Jamestyree to Nightfox on Wed Sep 25 2019 05:25 pm

It's sad, a whole new generation of lemmings are being raised with a level o abstraction that insulates them from what/how things communicate in the digi world. My daughter doesn't understand how some apps on her phone(if not all could use data. She doesn't understand IP address and why they're needed. It's like we're evolving into the people in the movie, "Wall-E". All they k is that layer of abstraction and no comprehension of what lies below it. Ju sad.

James

James, I'm sorry, but it's always been that way and it's absolutely ridiculous to expect otherwise. We geeks live in a bubble that's tinier than we'd like
to admit, made full with our obsessive drive to understand minutae. We are fools to expect that from other people, especially end users that just want
the damn technology to work. And I wouldn't have it any other way -- call it job security.

And these same people we could easily criticize for not knowing tcp/ip and 802.11 will surprise you with skills, talents, insights, and hobbies most
geeks wouldn't imagine.

Lighten up. ;)



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On 10-02-19 05:18, Nitewaves wrote to Jamestyree <=-

James, I'm sorry, but it's always been that way and it's absolutely ridiculous to expect otherwise. We geeks live in a bubble that's tinier than we'd like to admit, made full with our obsessive drive to
understand minutae. We are fools to expect that from other people, especially end users that just want the damn technology to work. And I wouldn't have it any other way -- call it job security.

Yes, everyone has their niche of knowledge, and when you spend your time soley within that bubble, it's easy to lose perspective.

And these same people we could easily criticize for not knowing tcp/ip
and 802.11 will surprise you with skills, talents, insights, and
hobbies most geeks wouldn't imagine.

True. I have my feet in a few camps. I'm definitely a tech geek, and know my way around networks and related things. However, I'm also a Masters athlete, and that comes with its own level of jargon, technical stuff, measurements and metrics, processes, procedures and culture, every bit as intricate as IT. :)


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